The Joe Rogan

Rogan Experience

Train by day Joe Rogan

all day. Welcome. Thanks for doing this man. I really appreciate it. I'm very very fascinated by this subject.

Well, thank you for having me. It's great to be here.

So this is a long journey for you to have written this book and to be involved in this project.

Can you talk us through how you got involved in this?

Sure. it was completely

unintentional. I had started off working on a different book on the evolution of human locomotion and I mean just as an aside humans are weird

primates in a lot of ways but one way we're weird is just we were slow we're weak but we have this ability to walk and run

long distances which is kind of unique so I thought okay I mean I'm, certainly a lot of other people have noted that before, but as far as I was concerned, no one had really written the deep history of that.

So I was going to go sort of investigate the anthropology of where this weird human capacity came from.

And, you know, so I thought that the early human history like Ardy would be this, you know, a little sliver of background before I got to the interesting stuff.

But anyway, I started reading the Ardy papers and they kind of undercut a lot of the things that I had,

the research community had taken for granted, or at least challenge them, let's say.

And so anyway, I started talking to the people on the RD team and then thinking, oh this, tell me about how you found this thing.

Oh, that sounds pretty interesting.

And then, so I thought, okay, well maybe already it'll'll, it'll be a page, it's more than this little

line. Then, you know, a little, a little more, that's five pages.

Now, actually this is a whole chapter. No, this is three chapters.

Oh, this is, this is, then at some point after this agonizing time of reappraisal, I said, you know what, this is much better than the actual story I was working on. I mean, this is a discovery that has been announced to the world but it hasn't

really been described in detail and it's interesting at a whole number of different levels I I mean there's the anatomy, it's just the

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