A single theme is too narrow for great minds and daring hearts.

Get ready to enter the lion heart with your host, Lawrence Dunning.

Hello and welcome back to another episode of Enter the Lionheart. I wanted to share this

podcast I recorded with my friend Sue on her podcast Small Steps, Big Wins. We talk about putting yourself

out there as we both recently published books where we talk about our own personal failures.

We cover lots of other topics such as dealing with lawsuits, personal challenges, the benefits of therapy, career changes and being open to change.

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Please enjoy my conversation with Sue Sala.

Hey, Lawrence, welcome back on the podcast again. I'm so excited for our conversation because

I just love talking to you because we never know where we're going to go with it, do we?

Thank you so much for having me. And I feel like when I listened to us talk last time, I was speaking a bit quickly.

So I'm going to try to slow down.

Oh, no, I think you're perfect.

It's all good.

So a lot of movement in life.

So I'm going to let you ask the question because I think you have something on your mind and let's go roll with it.

Well, before we even start, congratulations on publishing your book. I know having we both published

one this year. And I don't know how you felt, but I really felt like my book was about finance

and investing in real estate, but I've always had the opinion

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