160th Gun Pilot, Saddam Capture, Jessica Lynch Raid, Vehicle Interdictions, Danger Close Shooting, AH-6 & MH-6 Pilot, DFC, Silver Star, CW5 Steve Lapping (Round 2)
Combat Story
Ryan Fugit
4.8 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 23 September 2023
⏱️ 117 minutes
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Today we hear a second round Combat Story with long-time Night Stalker from the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (SOAR), Steve Lapping. Steve spent 31 years in Army Aviation, including two decades in 160th at the tip of the spear flying the MH-6 and AH-6.
This second round interview is chalked full of combat scenarios that Steve found himself in across 15 combat deployments, this time focusing primarily on his time flying guns for 160th. We talk vehicle interdictions, weapon malfunctions, danger close shots near women and children, a Dukes of Hazard-like chase, weaponeering, and more!
Steve also shares his experiences on the Saddam Hussein capture (including something I’d never heard before about the aftermath of that operation) and the somber experience covering ground forces as they recovered the remains of Americans who didn’t survive the Jessica Lynch capture.
Many will recall our first interview with Steve, which was a clear favorite for so many listeners and seen or heard by over 200K people, as we touched on Steve’s childhood, decision to join the military (that story’s a great one where the advice he receives comes from an unexpected role model), and his combat experiences in Objectives REINDEER and LEADVILLE, which included a DFC.
One thing that impressed me so much about Steve beyond being a CW5 and the unbelievable number of years he spent “rowing the boat” as he puts it (which is a reference to being at the very tip of the spear), is his humility and how he put his family as close to first as the mission will allow, wrapping up a storied career with the same wife and his children still by his side.
With that, please enjoy this (second) wild ride from the cockpit of one of the baddest aircraft on the planet (no bias of course!) with Steve Lapping.
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Show Notes:
00:00 - Intro
00:53 - Guest Introduction (Steve Lapping)
02:39 - Interview begins
05:12 - Connection with Pete Blaber
08:55 - Training in calmness
10:21 - Good and bad leaders
13:42 - 9/11
17:10 - The Black Swarm
20:55 - Little Birds and A-10's
26:05 - 9 Lines
27:46 - Sadam Hussein Capture
36:20 - Sadam Hussein post-mission
38:06 - Hello Fresh Ad
39:50 - Danger close shots
54:43 - First time pulling the trigger on a live target
01:02:12 - Training to take a life
01:12:48 - Layers of Management
01:15:24 - Jessica Lynch
01:26:18 - Ground Force and SAS mission
01:38:28 - Ticket on the airfield
01:42:49 - Jumping into trees
01:48:50 - Sentimental Items and do it all again
01:50:00 - Family relations during deployments
01:54:01 - Listener comments and shout outs
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Car stops. He gets out of the right side and so we're informed, engage the vehicle. |
| 0:08.0 | Guys got a gun getting out. I'm not able to shoot just as I'm |
| 0:12.0 | person myself. The left rear door opens up and a woman gets out carrying her |
| 0:18.0 | baby. And I am like, oh my God, that was so lucky I didn't shoot. |
| 0:23.0 | I'm making my break. I key the mic to tell Braille not to engage. |
| 0:29.0 | Well, I hit the mic, don't engage. And whoosh, a rocket comes out. |
| 0:34.0 | Welcome to Combat Story. I'm Ryan Fugid and I serve Warzone |
| 0:38.0 | Tours as an Army attack helicopter pilot and CIA officer over a 15-year |
| 0:42.0 | career. I'm fascinated by the experiences of the elite in combat. |
| 0:46.0 | On this show, I interview some of the best to understand what combat felt like on |
| 0:50.0 | their front lines. This is Combat Story. |
| 0:53.0 | Today we hear a second round combat story with long-time night stalker from the |
| 0:57.0 | 1960's Special Operations Aviation Regiment or SOAR Steve Lapping. |
| 1:01.0 | Steve spent 31 years in Army Aviation, including two decades in |
| 1:05.0 | 160th at the tip of the spear, flying the MH6 and AH6. |
| 1:10.0 | This second round interview is truck full of combat scenarios that Steve found |
| 1:14.0 | himself in across 15 combat deployments. This time we focus primarily on his |
| 1:19.0 | time flying guns in 160th. We talk vehicle interdictions, weapon malfunctions, |
| 1:24.0 | danger-closed shots, near-friendly and women and children, |
| 1:28.0 | adducks a hazard like chase, weaponry, and more. Steve also shares his |
| 1:32.0 | experience on the Saddam Hussein capture, including something I'd never heard |
| 1:36.0 | before about the aftermath of that operation, and the somber experience covering |
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