What's up ladies and gentlemen boys and girls around the world.

I would like to welcome you back to the real talk with Zuby podcast.

On today's episode we've got on a long awaited guest. He is a best-selling author.

He is a well-known international fitness trainer and all-around motivator.

And this is of course the one and only James Smith. Welcome to the show, man.

Thank you very much for looking forward to having the chat today.

Awesome, man. It's so good to have you on, bro. So I've done a brief intro there,

but for people who aren't familiar with who you are and what you do, please tell them a little bit

about yourself. For the most part, just a regular personal trainer who

I think caught the big boom of social media probably in the last four years

and used that to get my message across where there's a lot of

misinformation and fitness and you can tell there's always the, you can tell how the public

reacts to something and how big problem is by what you put up to social media and how it kind

of gravitates with them. And I think I'm one of the fortunate ones that's ridden the wave to now

do my work on my awesome, man. What do you think it is about your message in particular?

It's really resonating. I think that I come from a place of frustration and almost use social

media to invent that frustration. I think that the fitness industry is full of a lot of people

that don't require a lot of effort to be in good shape. There's something called the swimmer's

body illusion where some people swim because they want to get the physique of a swimmer,

but they don't realise that swimmers don't look the way they do because they swim. They swim

because of the way they look. So same respect in rugby people say, oh, you're big and broad

because you play rugby. I say no, I'm big and broad so then I play rugby. And the fitness

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