So hello, everybody. I'm here with Dr. Mario Bagos. Some of you who are following all of this

exciting universal history that I've been doing on my channel, have seen my discussion with him

on kind of the mythical aspect of Constantinople.

Mario is the author of a very interesting book on the symbolism of kings and emperors in from the Near East all the way to

Byzantium. And so he really, he's really bringing to light the things that we want to talk

about in terms of the, let's say, the more legendary aspect of these civilizational motifs.

And so today what we want to talk about together

is this image of the immortal emperor, the image of the marble emperor and the notion of this

emperor that kind of goes to sleep or vanishes and then comes back at the end that we see

in the Byzantine tradition, but also we see in the Western tradition and all kinds

of motifs.

And we're going to dovetail that into a discussion about apocalyptic motif in Byzantine

thinking.

So I'm very excited to continue the discussion on universal history with Dr. Mario Bogos.

Yeah. by goes. This is Jonathan Peugeot.

Welcome to the symbolic world.

Music world.

So Dr. Mario, thank you, thank you for joining me a second time.

I know that the reaction to our first discussion was really, really exciting, and people were very fascinated about the things we're talking about.

So I'm looking forward to our discussion today.

Likewise, Jonathan. I'm very much honored to be here again and I thank you for inviting me again. It's a great blessing. Yeah.

So tell us a little bit. So I think we just need to dive right into it. So tell us a little bit about the legends of the

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