Hello everyone, welcome to the podcast. This is Byron Katie, and my guest today is Magdalena,

and oh my, are you in for a treat? And sitting with Magdalena takes a lot of courage.

She's on the phone call with her son and he asks her two-part question.

And she goes into what turns out to be trauma.

She hears it as a kind of judgment, as there's something behind it, and she sees him as demanding her undivided attention.

And basically, altogether, she is fearful and her trauma comes up. It all comes together.

So I love that you're here to sit in self-inquiry, not just to listen,

but to sit in self-inquiry with Magdalena and me as we do the work on what does trauma look like in our everyday lives

and the fearlessness she shows us on how to actually sit in the trauma. Welcome to the work.

Open your minds and get still, dears. And all together, lucid and self-inquiry.

Hello, dears. Hello, dears. Hello, dears. Hello, dears. Oh, my goodness. So happy to see you here. I mean, how amazing is that? You're just like, push a couple of buttons and there's the world. You know, when I was little, my mother taught us, like, here's the church and here's the steeple.

Open the door and there's all the people.

I mean, open the door, just hit join.

I think she was on to something.

And this is like church by some definition. It's where we tap into what's beautiful what's

beautiful what is wisdom what is undeniable others could could deny what we're thinking and

believing but we're at home in ourselves and our minds are

open and we're not preaching and teaching. This is the way. We're just living it. Oh, I love that

so much. No one to change, nothing to do, and it doesn't mean I don't try occasionally.

Stephen, you left the milk out. Like maybe he'll get a clue. Teaching how subtle. Yeah, but I'm in the right.

And he should have and didn't.

Really?

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