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Hello, good. What's up, man? Hello.

What's up, man?

What's up, man? Nice to meet you in person.

You too.

We've been chatting back and forth online for quite a while now.

Yeah, man.

You know, it's funny, I was looking at it. I think it's been like five or six years since their first like interaction.

How did you get involved being a hunting guide? What was your what's your path to that? Yeah man so it's a I guess it's a long story. You know I I grew up in a rural area my dad was a cattle rancher and then he did a little outfitting when I was a kid and then it well it's kind of a long story man because I thought this was normal when I was a kid but

When I was when my dad was an adult he he was a cattle rancher, and then he went back to vet school.

And so he actually left outfitting and cattle ranching and pursued that.

And that was when he was like in his 40s, you know? And so that was my first exposure to, you know, being

an outfitter or guiding was through my father. And then honestly, man, like growing up, I hunted

all the time. I've been obsessed with you

know hunting since I was 10 12 years old and then I went and kind of did a more

traditional I guess, lifestyle.

I went to school, went to undergrad, went to business school,

and then I worked in finance for a few years.

And we can get deep into like why that didn't last you know I

Maybe you can help us I got explain why the banks are feeling right now I don't know man it's been so long since I've I've been in that world.

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