#1963 - Michael Shellenberger

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan

Comedy

4.6 • 228.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2023

⏱️ 168 minutes

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Michael Shellenberger is the best-selling author of “Apocalypse Never” and “San Fransicko." He is a journalist and founder of Public, a Substack publication. Michael is a Time Magazine Hero of the Environment and Green Book Award winner. He is also founder and president of Environmental Progress, a research organization that incubates ideas, leaders, and movementsmichaelshellenberger.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The Joe Rogan
0:05.0	Rogan Experience
0:06.0	Train by day Joe Rogan Podcast all day.
0:10.0	Hello Michael.
0:13.0	It's happening.
0:14.0	Good to see you again.
0:15.0	Thanks for having me back. My pleasure.
0:16.0	Appreciate it.
0:17.0	So, first of all, what was it like to get a hold of the Twitter files? Like what was that experience like? How did that go down?
0:27.2	Exciting as hell, man. I mean, seriously, there's been a lot of misinformation about that itself, but Barry Weiss contacted me.
0:36.2	She lives in LA and she got in and she's like, how soon can you get over here?
0:39.6	And I was like, let me finish this interview.
0:41.5	I'm on and I'm over and yeah it was incredible you know I
0:46.6	I'd never met Elon before you know I met him at the coffee station just making himself a
0:50.8	cup of coffee he had no idea who I was and yeah we just got into it. It was a you know I was sort of the the least known of the big three journalists that were there is Barry Weiss and Matt Taibi who was on and they
1:04.9	had already started thinking about how to kind of what to go after and Matt had
1:08.7	done a story on the Hunter Biden laptop already and then we were starting to look at January 6th
1:14.9	because Trump gets deplatformed on January 8th and so because I'm like the junior
1:20.0	member of that threesome so to speak they gave me January 7th so the first
1:25.8	thing we one of the first things we did was just to look at how they made a
1:28.7	decision to get to pull Trump off the platform and it turned out that the seventh was an important day because that was when they started
1:35.4	to rationalize this decision to deplatform Trump, even though their own people inside had
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