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The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

1KHO 438: To Be Alive is To Be Addicted | Ian Cron, The Fix

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Parenting, Kids & Family

4.9 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

To be alive is to be addicted—whether to work, control, social media, or the need for approval, we all have something we turn to in order to soothe our pain. Addiction isn’t just about alcohol or drugs—it’s about anything we use to numb our pain, from workaholism to social media to people-pleasing. In this eye-opening conversation, bestselling author and Enneagram expert Ian Cron joins Ginny Yurich to discuss his latest book, The Fix: How the 12 Steps Offer a Surprising Path of Transformation for the Well-Adjusted, the Down and Out, and Everyone in Between. Together, they explore the hidden compulsions that rule our lives, the surprising depth of the 12-step process, and why true healing requires surrendering our self-made solutions in favor of something far greater. This episode isn’t just about addiction—it’s about waking up. Ian shares how our culture profits from keeping us distracted and addicted, the spiritual roots of compulsive behaviors, and why emotional sobriety is the key to lasting peace. Whether you struggle with food, control, screens, or perfectionism, The Fix offers a path toward transformation. Listen in as Ian and Ginny unpack what it means to truly let go—and why that’s where real freedom begins. ** Learn more about Ian and everything he has to offer here Get your copy of The Fix here ** Download your free 1000 Hours Outside tracker here >> https://www.1000hoursoutside.com/trackers Find everything you need to kick off your 1000 Hours Outside Journey here >> https://www.1000hoursoutside.com/blog/allthethings Order of copy of Ginny's newest book, Until the Streetlights Come On here >> https://amzn.to/3RXjBlN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Are you looking for an experience that will grow your teenager's faith, increase their leadership

0:04.0

skills, and teach them the discernment to engage with the world all around them, all while taking them on the adventure of a lifetime?

0:09.0

I mean, who isn't looking for that? If your teenager loves fun, adventure, and wants to grow in their faith in leadership this summer, then send them to Excel's summer leadership camp.

0:18.0

Excels summer leadership camp is a 12-day experience for passionate young leaders looking

0:22.7

to discover God's truth, to discern wisely and live wholeheartedly.

0:26.7

Your teenager will embark on a transformative journey in the Blue Ridge Mountains, where they'll

0:30.6

build lasting friendships in the context of community.

0:33.2

Embark on thrilling adventures like camping, rock climbing, whitewater rafting, and they will

0:37.4

receive expert training and certifications in categories like CPR and Wilderness First Aid.

0:43.1

Each aspect of the camp is woven together to help them learn to discover truth, to discern wisely, and take godly action in the context of real life situations.

0:51.2

To learn more or begin an application, go to theexcelcamp.org. That's theexcelcamp.org.

0:57.0

Hurry because summer is just around the corner.

1:00.0

Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Urich. I'm the founder of 1000 Hours Outside.

1:08.0

And I just read a book I absolutely love. I love it so, so much.

1:11.6

It's called The Fix, How the Twelve Steps Offer a surprising path of transformation for the

1:15.9

well-adjusted, the down and out, and everyone in between. And the author Ian Kron is here.

1:21.5

Welcome, Ian. Thank you so much. Glad to be here. Okay, so I have to tell you this story before

1:26.8

we kick it off. I've always been scared of an to be here. Okay, so I have to tell you this story before we kick it off.

1:33.6

I, I've always been scared of Enneagram. I don't know. The word just kind of freak me out.

1:37.8

And I was like, we did Myers-Briggs in high school. I was like, that's good enough.

1:44.5

Then all of a sudden, Enneagram came around. And everyone was asking, and I was like, I don't know. I don't even know how to pronounce the word.

1:45.8

I don't know what my number is.

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