I'm John Batchel with Bill Rajo, a senior fellow foundation for the Defense of Democracy,

my colleague and co-host, and we're very much pleased to be able to speak to Ahmed Shahrawi,

who has wow stories. And we leave Al-Shara, the, maybe that's his name, the president of Syria, and we go to, at the

middle of the month of April, announced the Jordanian General Intelligence Directorate,

those are the guys with the guns, a sharp end of the stick, that they had, quote,

four plans aimed at targeting national security,

sowing chaos, and sabotage within Jordan.

And the perpetrators, according to the Jordanian officials,

was the Muslim brothers.

Ahmed, the Muslim brothers, Iqwan, were driven out of Egypt

and went into exile, I thought, the leadership did in Ankara.

But Jordan has long been plagued by a large Muslim brother population in any event.

So the allegation here is that the Muslim brothers were either going to replace or do away with in some fashion the king

and make Jordan, which is prominently an ally of the United States and Israel, make Jordan a Islamist state, I suppose.

Is there evidence that supports the allegation by the general, by the Jordanian officials?

So the allegation was that they intended to use rockets for domestic use, so against Jordan itself.

About plans in regards to a coup, I don't think I've seen any confirmed allegations in regards to that.

But this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, has been, has been going on for, for, for, for the past five years.

And, uh, so the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the intelligence director at full, uh, plot that involved, uh, a rocket, a rocket, uh, cell, uh, cell that wanted to use drones, um, a cell for recruitment, as,, a cell that wanted to use drones, a cell for recruitment, and a cell that

wanted to transport arms and explosives inside Jordan.

So it was a multifaceted plot, one that intended to cause chaos in the country, and create

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