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Battleground

20. Escalation dominance

Battleground

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🗓️ 23 December 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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On this latest episode of Battleground: Ukraine, Saul and Patrick speak to leading British Military Historian Sir Hew Strachan, who gives his expert analysis on the conflict, and discusses the need for diplomacy to bring this conflict to an end. There is also some interesting discussion around issues and questions raised by our listeners. Producer: James Hodgson Twitter: @PodBattleground Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:17.9

Hello and welcome again to Battleground Ukraine with me Saul David and Patrick Bishop.

1:22.0

Well, there's a distinct feeling of deja vu about the latest developments.

1:27.3

The noises coming out of Kiev are suggesting that we might soon be back to where we were in February, with the

1:28.0

Russians preparing to launch another attack on the Ukrainian capital, just as they did 10 long months ago

1:33.8

back in February. Is this for real? Or is it perhaps, as some are suggesting, a gambit in the

1:39.5

information war, designed to ensure the West's continuing support for Ukraine?

1:45.3

It's a fascinating one,

1:49.3

isn't it, Saul? I think we're getting to a stage in the war when the emotion that's played such a large part in sustaining Western backing for Ukraine is becoming the decisive factor in where it

1:56.1

goes. As the war goes on, it's becoming ever clearer that there are really huge stakes at play here,

2:01.9

not just in Europe, but for the future of the world.

2:04.2

And we're very fortunate in having as our guest today, Professor Hugh Sir Hugh,

2:08.6

strong, I should say, one of Britain's foremost military historians and thinkers

2:12.5

who will be sharing his thoughts about the deepest significance of the conflict.

2:16.6

But before we get to that,

2:18.2

a new Russian attack on Kiev, what do you think the likelihood of that is so? Not very likely.

2:25.3

There are lots of indications, as you say, Patrick, the chat coming out of Kiev that the Russians

2:31.5

are about to do this, The fact that Putin has just visited

2:34.8

Belarus for the first time in the conflict and the implication being that he's about to twist

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