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Welcome to the Trap Set 200th episode Spectacular.

This week, as with our 100th episode, we decided to turn the tables.

So our good friend and former guest, Patty Shemmel, came back to

interview me. But before we get to that, I just want to say that making the trap set has been a

life-changing force beyond what I could have ever expected when we started four years ago.

It served as a vehicle for me to move forward as an artist, and it's been

an incredible privilege to engage in real conversation with different drummers, many of whom are my

heroes, every week. After a lot of thought, my co-producer Chris and I have decided that moving forward

will still explore the lives

of drummers, but we're also going to start talking to musicians from all backgrounds.

Upcoming episodes include a talk with Ian Mackay and a live episode with the zombies.

So keeping that in mind, hit us up if you have any guest requests, drummer or non-drummer.

Thanks to all of you for listening.

It really means the world to me that you let us into your lives every Wednesday.

And now my conversation with Patty Schemel.

Or Patty Schemel's conversation with me.

Are we going to talk about the fact that this is the 200th episode?

Shall we? Sure. Amazing. It is amazing. It's been a really transformative force in my life.

Yeah. Yes. Did it become something different the podcast than you'd expected? Did it give you something? I mean, I'm sure you met a lot of people, but...

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