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PRETEND

2003: The Telepathy Tapes B-Side part 1

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

The Telepathy Tapes podcast shot to the top of the charts, making bold claims about telepathic abilities in non-verbal autistic children. But are the claims rooted in science—or something else entirely? In this episode of PRETEND, we take a closer look at the phenomenon, the controversies, and the skepticism surrounding these extraordinary claims. We’ll discuss: ➜ The premise of The Telepathy Tapes and the experiments it presents. ➜ Scientific skepticism surrounding telepathy claims. ➜ Ethical concerns, including the history of Facilitated Communication and its controversies. ➜ Voices from parents, experts, and critics, including Zaid Jilani and Amy Lutz. Resources Mentioned:    Learn more about Amy Lutz’s work and her book Chasing the Intact Mind. https://amzn.to/4gg9Mbe    Read Zaid Jilani’s articles on Facilitated Communication and The Telepathy Tapes on his Substack, The American Saga. https://www.theamericansaga.com/    Explore the history of Facilitated Communication in the documentary Tell Them You Love Me (available on U.S. Netflix). https://www.netflix.com/title/81783064 Share Your Thoughts: Have you listened to The Telepathy Tapes? What do you think about the claims it makes? We want to hear from you! Send a voice memo with your thoughts to [email protected], and your message might be featured in an upcoming episode. Stay Connected: Follow PRETEND on social media and subscribe to the podcast for more stories exploring deception and the human condition. ➜ BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/pretendpod.bsky.social ➜ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/ ➜ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod ➜ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This past December, a brand new podcast rocketed past Joe Rogan and crime junkies to claim the top spot on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

1:04.0

It's called The Telepathy Tapes.

1:06.2

And it's hosted by Kai Dickens, a documentary filmmaker.

1:10.4

Then, my inbox started filling up with messages

1:13.3

from listeners urging me to check it out. Listeners couldn't believe what they were hearing. Many

1:18.1

started the telepathy tapes as skeptics, but by the end of the first episode, they were questioning

1:23.6

everything. This podcast is so compelling that it turned some of them into actual believers.

1:30.3

By the way, if you haven't listened to the telepathy tapes podcast yet, don't worry,

1:35.4

it is not a prerequisite for this episode.

1:38.0

Although I think you should check it out for yourself later.

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