Everybody talks about community now, but literally the idea of human beings who are like a set or a tribe or a group or whatever, that's what we were trying to document.

This is Joe Wong.

Welcome to the Trapset.

This week, part two of my conversation with Ian Mackay.

During part one, Ian talks about growing up in D.C., his early musical experiences, and co-founding

the influential Discord Records. If you want to hear more about the history of Discord,

make sure to check out our episodes with Ian's labelmates, Brendan Canty, Amy Farina, Mitchell

Feldstein, Laura Harris, Zach Brokis, Adam Wade, Pete Moffitt, and Chad Moulter,

all available for free on our website or wherever you get your podcasts.

And now, part two of my conversation with Ian Mackay.

I would have to imagine that at some point, the label transitioned from being just a vehicle for you to release music to being a company of some sort.

You hired people and you were responsible to other people, and then people are entrusting you with their most precious work, and you're helping them kind of usher it into the world.

When did you start regarding it more as like a business?

Well in 1983 we started to pay taxes.

And you created a company on paper at that point?

Well we're a partnership.

Yeah.

Discord Records is a partnership.

Yeah.

But we had to do that because there was no way we were just getting, yeah, we just got to a point where we had to do it.

And then, I mean, at that point, though, by 1983, I mean, think about it.

Like, the first record

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