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Fairly Odd Sisters

21: Ryan and Charlie: Growing Up Gay, Falling in Love, and Finding Their Place in the Church

Fairly Odd Sisters

Fairly Odd Sisters

Society & Culture, Fiction, Health & Fitness, Drama, Personal Journals

4.83.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2024

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Sarah’s brother Ryan Clifford joins the podcast with his husband Charlie Bird. Charlie is a clinical therapist, author of Without the Mask and Expanding the Borders of Zion, and former BYU mascot. Ryan and Charlie reveal some of Sarah’s childhood secrets, explain what it was like coming out, and their personal journeys finding happiness and each other. This episode was so fun and ran long so we’ll be having Ryan and Charlie on again next week to finish the convo. If you liked this episode please leave us a review!!


Ryan and Charlies Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@CharlieandRyan


https://instagram.com/mrcharliebird

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Okay, we have some really, really special guests on today.

0:04.7

Sarah's like already regretting this.

0:06.5

My claim to fame is that Sarah Beeston, the Sarah Beeston

0:10.2

Oh my God.

0:11.3

Is my sister.

0:12.4

We'll do this like introduce yourselves and I'm always like. Oh my sister. Is my sister.

0:13.0

We'll do this like introduce yourselves and I'm always like,

0:15.0

yeah, I don't really have any accolades and Charlie's just like,

0:17.0

yeah, I was the mascot, I wrote two books,

0:20.0

I'm a licensed therapist.

0:22.0

I like... There's a lot of conversion therapy techniques and

0:25.0

none of them work by the way.

0:27.0

I feel like most women are pretty intuitive

0:30.0

and they can kind of pick up on it.

0:31.0

They're like, okay, sleigh.

0:32.0

Right.

0:33.0

Hi.

0:35.0

Hey, it's Sarah and Loebiston.

0:37.0

You're Fairly Odd Sisters.

0:40.0

Whoa.

0:41.0

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

0:43.0

Yeah.

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