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213. How Three Wise Men Became Three Kings

Empire

Jack Davenport

History

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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The story of the Three Wise Men has been reinterpreted since it was first written down. The gift-bearing visitors to the newborn Jesus were initially described as “Magi”, meaning Persians of a priestly caste, but by the 4th century they were given the individual names of Gaspar, Melchior and Balthazar. And in Medieval Europe they were described not as Three Wise Men, but as Three Kings. Yet there’s more to the evolution of the Magi than Western ideas, in Syriac Christian traditions there are up to 24 Magi, and in the Ethiopian church they are named Hor, Karsudan, and Basanater. So how have these ideas developed over time? Listen as William and Anita are again joined by Professor Lloyd Lewellyn-Jones to discuss the evolution of the story of the Magi, and the influence of British imperialism on their symbolism… Twitter: @Empirepoduk Email: [email protected] Goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producers: Anouska Lewis  Producer: Callum Hill Exec Producer: Neil Fearn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:02.9

And me, William Dribble.

1:05.1

And we're doing some Christmasy specials because we love you and we love this subject.

1:09.2

I mean, it's amazing.

1:10.3

We're talking about the Magi,

1:12.4

the three wise men, three kings. If you haven't heard the first episode, go back and listen to it

1:16.0

because it's really outstanding with our outstanding guest, a professor of ancient history,

1:21.2

and now a proper man of the cloth, Lloyd Llewellyn Jones, is with us again. Hello. Hello, hello. You took us on such

1:30.5

a fabulous romp in the last episode. And, you know, the reason again, if you're just joining us, is why are these

1:36.8

guys doing this story? I thought I'm listening to Empire. Well, if you listen to the first one,

1:41.8

and hopefully in this too, we always have this idea that the nativity story with the three wise men turning up with their gold,

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frankincense and mure is a direct trajectory from the gospel of Matthew coming straight down to us and nothing has been changed.

1:58.0

And it is, you know, it's as pure as that.

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But what we're doing is we're talking

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