Hey everybody before we get started I just wanted to jump on because we are so excited to announce that restore registration is officially open

We can't wait to be with you again this year. It's gonna be on September 5th through 7th at the Mountain America Expo Center in Sandy, Utah.

That's the evening of September 5th and then all day on the 6th and the 7th.

Three days of incredible speakers, poets, musicians, and artists.

We really think that what we have planned will blow you away again this year so you won't want to miss it.

Go to faithmatters.org slash restore for tickets and we'll see you there.

Hey everybody this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters. We were joined today by our good friend and contributor to

Faith Matters Thomas McConkey along with his longtime mentor and friend John

Kessler who you probably heard him mentioned before on the podcast. In so many ways

Thomas and John's paths were mere images of each other until they eventually collided.

John Kessler developed an awareness and life practice called IPP or Integral Polarity Practice that had a profound impact on Thomas's life.

And so you're going to hear a little bit about polarities or fundamental tensions of human development

and how in finding the still points in these seeming opposites, we can experience a relief of that tension and a transcendent

peace.

Both Thomas and John believe that one of the gifts of our tradition is that it has the structure

and the scaffolding that creates rich fertile ground for genuine development.

And at the same time, they see that at different seasons of our life we experience struggle,

even struggles around belief.

And yet, as John says, in those experiences we learn that there's something down deep that's there that can hold us and nurture us, and that these depths can bring us not beyond belief, but to the source of belief.

This conversation felt so abundant.

It felt like a starting place.

And Thomas and John will be hosting a handful of retreats

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