220: How Do We Talk to Our Children About Race? With Paris McLean

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4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I sit down with Paris McLean – Assistant Head of School for Diversity, Inclusion, and Anti-Racism at Montclair Kimberley Academy, and my old friend – to discuss navigating conversations on race, how we can talk to our children about race, diversity, and equity, and how parents can be mindful about raising their children in diverse and inclusive environments. Paris speaks about his role in education and the foundational themes of his work, his experience growing up biracial, and how parents can use children’s literature as a powerful tool to start conversations. He also discusses the many different facets of diversity, how families can navigate raising children in a predominantly white community, and answers listener questions on explaining privilege, raising biracial children, and more.

Key Takeaway / Points:

How we know each other and how Paris has played a role in my and my husband’s lives
Paris’s role in education and the themes of his work
On how diversity and equity work will never be “over”
On Paris’s experience growing up biracial
On navigating uncomfortable commentary made by others about biracial children
On having conversations about race with children
On feeling responsible for your child’s privilege
Workshopping an example with my son and talking about race
On the power of children’s literature to start conversations at home
On the many different facets of diversity
How families can navigate raising their children in a predominantly white community
Answering listener questions on raising biracial children, explaining privilege, and navigating conversations about race among family

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0:47.9	on my family. This is one of the episodes where if I could make it a required listen, it would be.
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1:00.7	the FFAM would download and listen to, and this is one of them.
1:04.0	Today's guest is Paris McLean, who is a longtime good friend of mine.
1:09.5	And we get into this in the episode, but like, if there's one
1:13.8	person who has played a huge role in how my life ended up in like a puppeteer stance,
1:22.5	like in the background kind of pulling strings, it's really him if I think about it. And like,
1:27.1	I joke about this all time,
1:28.1	but like truly it is. And you'll understand why soon. But he has been so great to me over the
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