The first time I learned about you was when I was watching a John Mac documentary.

Oh, far out. Yeah. And you were talking about John and he's had a lot of interesting things to say.

And I thought that you'd be a fascinating person to talk to. So I'm glad you're finally here.

Yeah, I've gotten only more fascinating sense then.

That's when Lou Elizando retained me, and then we get to do the help with the legislation.

And I mean, things are really hot right now.

Things are very hot right now.

And you're being very outspoken.

Why have you all of a sudden decided to start doing podcasts?

Well, because once we got the attention of Congress, you know,

that Congress pays attention to people around the country when they start knowing about stuff.

And so our people now, what we've put together, the New Paradigm Institute to actually

mobilize people, to educate people to get them past the supposition that, well, somebody says

they're there, you can't really tell, they don't ever have any real pictures of them, you know,

that they got buzzed over the December 2017 videos, you know, that Lou Elizando and Chris Mellon brought to the New York

Times. And they're going, whoa, okay, then they've seen those a hundred times. You know,

but the fact is, there's a lot more, a lot more information in firsthand witnesses that are

extraordinarily credible. There are deep insiders that have been coming to the Senate Intelligence Committee now

and testifying under oath and giving them documented proof

and other references to corroborate what they're saying.

I mean, you know, it's rolling right now.

And so we all people put together the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Armed Services Committee staff,

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