225. The Spiritual Void and the West | Rav Arora

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🗓️ 11 February 2022

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As an alternative for those who would rather listen ad-free, sign up for a premium subscription to receive the following: *All JBP Podcast episodes ad-free *Monthly Ask-Me-Anything episodes (and the ability to ask questions) *Presale access to events *Premium, detailed show notes for future episodes Sign up here: https://jordanbpeterson.supercast.com This episode was recorded on Saturday, March 27, 2021. In this exclusive interview, Rav Arora and Dr Peterson discuss problems with ideology, atheism, the church, systemic racism, victimhood, the death of religion, psychedelics, meaning, religious practice, and personal responsibility. Rav is an independent journalist based in Vancouver. He writes on a wide range of topics including violent crime, MDMA therapy, identity politics, and vaccine mandates. Subscribe to his Substack newsletter: https://ravarora.substack.com Follow Rav on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Ravarora1 Rav's essay on his transformative MDMA experience: https://ravarora.substack.com/p/the-power-of-mdma-therapy ______________ Chapters ______________ [00:00] Intro [02:00] Rav's Foreword [05:45] Religious vs. Political Ideology [07:42] Crippled Religions [09:40] Political vs. Religious Beliefs [11:10] Ideology & Thinking [11:47] How Ideology Blinds Us [15:38] Externalizing Problems [16:41] Other Faces of Evil [21:44] Perils of Ideology [21:59] Ignorance [22:52] Systemic Racism [25:39] White Supremacy, Symbolism & the Patriarchy [36:37] Microaggressive Hard Work [38:22] Immigration & Culture [40:44] Individual Responsibility [41:21] Our Worst Crimes [41:47] Income Inequality [46:09] Young People & Values [51:58] Meaning Without Religion [56:43] The Immortality Key [58:32] Death of Modern Religion [01:08:05] The Church & Self-discipline [01:08:35] Life Decisions [01:09:52] Religious practice [01:16:16] The Biblical Lectures [01:17:46] Spiritual Structure [01:18:50] Psychedelics & Mindfulness [01:21:11] The Problem with Atheism [01:24:30] Undermining Human Progress [01:25:57] Meditation, Attention, & Thinking [01:28:36] Music [01:30:26] Victimhood [01:37:29] Taking a Joke [01:43:23] Playing Both Sides [01:42:09] Victimhood [01:48:35] Privilege [01:58:58] Gratitude Despite Suffering [02:09:11] Responding to Criticism [02:19:23] Jordan's Influence #Ideology #Meaning #Psychedelics #Victimhood #SystemicRacism

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0:00.0	Welcome to season four episode 82 of the JBP Podcast. I'm Michaela Peterson.
0:05.6	For this special release, Dad was interviewed by the very young and very impressive
0:10.0	Ravel Roera. So the episode is mostly Dad rather than him interviewing someone else.
0:15.2	Ravel is an independent writer and blogger who examines the news, media, and pop culture
0:20.2	from a critical unfiltered perspective. He's been featured on the Hill, the bench,
0:24.4	pure show, and on my podcast a while back. He's also a regular contributor to the New
0:29.3	York Post, Quillette, and other journals. Ravel had great questions about spirituality,
0:34.6	race, media misinformation, ideology, and a lot of other topics. Remember, if you want
0:39.7	an ad free experience for this podcast, check out show notes or go to JordanVPterson.supercast.com.
0:46.8	You can sign up for $10 a month. That'll change the JBP Podcast you press on in Spotify
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0:57.6	I hope you enjoy this interview. Hi, everyone. This is Ravel Roera, independent journalist
1:02.7	based in Vancouver, Canada, most frequently contributing to the New York Post and the
1:08.3	Global Mail. And I am most known for writing about crime, policing, racial identity politics,
1:16.4	and vaccine mandates. The following wide-ranging conversation with Jordan Peterson and I
1:22.5	centers on the absence or decline of spiritual experience in Western secular culture. We
1:30.4	specifically talked about how ideological worship and political activism, often unknowingly,
1:37.0	replaces real spiritual practices and contemplative traditions. Unbeknownst to me at the time of
1:43.5	this recording several months ago, this whole conversation gradually inspired by new
1:49.9	journalistic adventures in psychedelics, mystical experience, and new, interesting mental
1:56.1	health treatments. Over the past few months, I've been exploring the possibilities of
2:02.8	human consciousness and inner healing, grounded in science and reason. And my new substack
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