All right, Jeffrey Long.

Thank you so much for joining us today, sir.

It's a real pleasure.

How did you get so fascinated and dedicate 30 years of your life to studying near-death experiences?

You know, I was in my residency training.

I'm a physician.

My medical specialty is radiation oncology, which is the use of radiation to treat cancer. So there I was 30 years ago in training and going to the medical library, looking through this bound book called the Journal of the American Medical Association, one of the world's most prestigious journals. And totally by accident, there I found in the title, the phrase, near-death experience. I'd never heard of it before. So immediately, I was fascinated on first time in my life seeing the phrase near-death experience. I mean, how can you not be fascinated by wondering what happens when you die? So reading the article,

I was astonished. Here was a physician, a cardiologist, a heart doctor, who had studied

several dozen patients that had a cardiac arrest. Their heart stopped. And I knew medically that

it should be impossible for them to have any conscious remembrance at that time,

but his study group did.

They had consciousness separating apart from the body and what's called out-of-body experience

and what they were observing while they were literally comatose after their heart stopped.

When they came back and talked with Dr. Sabam, as his name,

what they described was accurate down

to the finest details. I was amazed. I said, if this is real, if this is really something

that happens consistently, this completely changes my view of the universe. And that was the

dawn of my interest in studying this phenomenon of near-death experiences. So what do you do today?

What is your day job? I work full-time as a radiation oncology physician serving actually an

underserved area in Kentucky. So you see cancer patients on the regular? Yep. And so how do you integrate your interest in near death experiences with working

with these cancer patients? Do you let them know about your interest in NDEs and ask them if

they're willing to share their experiences or how does that work? I'm very careful not to

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