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Have you ever known someone a long time and then suddenly they become a big deal?

That's exactly how I'm feeling about today's podcast guest, Tia Leavings.

Tia and I have known each other for over 25 years.

We've been friends, we've been colleagues.

Some of you may even remember when Tia worked for Brave Writer.

In the last several years, however, Tia worked for Brave Writer. In the last several years, however,

Tia has been busy writing a memoir

of her time in high control religion.

The title of the book is A Well Trained Wife, My Escape from Christian Patriarchy.

The book is gripping in its frank detail.

It's pretty impossible to read it without Kleenex handy to be honest. But before we dive into the interview

I wanted to remind everyone that this is Tia's personal story. If you are the kind of person who has a meaningful vital faith,

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