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The Verywell Mind Podcast

251 - How to Get Help When Therapy Isn't Enough with Personal Development Coach Mike Bayer

The Verywell Mind Podcast

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Health & Fitness, Self-improvement, Mental Health, Education

5703 Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Mike Bayer is a New York Times Best-Selling author and a top life coach. He's also the CEO and founder of CAST Centers, a Hollywood-based treatment center that provides intensive outpatient services to people seeking help for addiction or mental health issues. In today's episode, Mike explains intensive outpatient services. He talks about how to find help, who could benefit from this level of care, and how to pay for intensive services. He also shares the common pitfalls people should avoid when seeking quality treatment. To learn more, check out his website or CAST Centers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Very Well Mind podcast. We've interviewed over 100 authors, experts, entrepreneurs, athletes, musicians, and others to help you learn strategies to care for your mental health.

0:22.9

This episode is hosted by psychotherapist and bestselling author Amy Morin. Now let's get into the episode.

0:48.3

Okay. Have you ever wondered if one hour of therapy would be enough to help you feel better?

0:54.4

Or have you ever worried that your loved one with a mental health issue or substance abuse problem needs more than just therapy? Is going to a hospital or a rehab center the only option? There are actually

1:00.1

different levels of care, as we call it in the therapy world. But for some reason, you don't hear

1:05.1

much about the in-between levels. You might have heard of someone getting admitted to a psychiatric

1:09.3

hospital or going to rehab, and you've probably heard of people who admitted to a psychiatric hospital or going to rehab,

1:11.5

and you've probably heard of people who go see a therapist.

1:14.4

But those are only two examples of levels of treatment.

1:18.0

In between those extremes are what we call partial hospitalization programs

1:22.0

and intensive outpatient programs.

1:24.7

A partial hospitalization program offers several hours of treatment every day,

1:29.1

but then, unlike an inpatient program, people go home at night. An intensive outpatient program

1:34.9

offers several hours of treatment several days a week, but not quite as many hours as the

1:40.2

partial hospitalization program. Some people go to those programs to get help with mental

1:44.7

health issues like depression or anxiety. Others go for substance abuse issues. Here to explain more

1:51.0

about different levels of treatment is personal development coach Mike Baer. He's a New York Times

1:56.2

bestselling author and the founder and CEO of Cass Center's Treatment Center. You might recognize him from

2:02.2

the Dr. Phil Show, where he was a regularly featured expert. Mike is in recovery himself,

2:08.0

and his mission is to help other people who are struggling with mental health issues or substance

2:11.6

abuse problems. Some of the things he talks about today are how to find quality help when you need

2:16.6

it, how to pay for treatment for yourself or a loved one, and what to avoid when you're looking

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