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Welcome back to the podcast. I'm so happy to be back. Today we're having such an

interesting conversation. I'll be honest. Before we started interviewing this

guest, I was a little skeptical. I found myself nervous, a little uncomfortable with the topic.

Eloise Rickman is the author of a book called It's Not Fair.

Why It's Time for a grown-up conversation about how adults treat children.

She lives in the UK and is a self-described children's liberationist. Her focus? Children's Rights. And of course, in America,

we have such an uncomfortable relationship with the idea of who's in charge of the child.

Is it a parent? Is it the teacher? How much agency do we allow a child?

Who really has the final say about that child's well-being.

Well, I think you're going to find today's conversation fascinating.

Eloise challenged some of my assumptions,

but she also highlighted with a bright yellow marker

the places of agreement that we share, that a child is not just a mini adult in

training, that children have a right to a wonderful life experience

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