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Welcome to the rest is classified.

I'm Gordon Carrera.

I'm David McCloskey.

And this is an emergency pod.

We're doing a special, aren't we, David?

That's right.

We've got the rest is classified siren blaring above us.

For those, not watching, it's silent.

The bat signal's gone out to look at this subject of intelligence sharing with Ukraine.

Because it's in the news at the moment and we thought it's worth taking a look at this, a kind of rest is classified look.

Not necessarily chasing today's headline, but trying to understand what lies behind those headlines when it comes to the intelligence side of the relationship.

Because, David, the reports are that your country, the United States may have paused,

whatever that means, it's intelligence sharing with Ukraine.

Yeah, Gordon. So I think we'll get into this, but we should sort of set the table here

that this is, of course, a very fast-moving story that will doubtless change

even over the course of the next day or so. So we're going into this, I think, trying to

help listeners understand maybe the mechanics of what the U.S.-Ukraine intelligence sharing relationship looks like and why is it

important for the U.S. and Ukraine, how much does it really matter? What impact does it have on the

battlefield? Questions like that. But we are hearing, as you mentioned, Gordon, that, and I believe

John Radcliffe, the CIA director actually provided a statement to the press today, basically saying, I'm looking at it now in quite

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