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This episode is hosted by psychotherapist and bestselling author Amy Morin. Now let's get into the episode.

Okay. Today we have a special episode as we honor Very Well Mind's 25 award winners.

A panel of judges and editors at Very Well Mind chose thought leaders, experts, and advocates who are making a difference in mental health in some way. If you're interested in seeing who

the 25 winners are, go to very wellmind.com slash very wellmind 25. And you can read about all

the people that we're honoring this month. One of those people happens to be

Nedra Glover-Tawab. Nedder's a therapist and one of our favorite guests of all time. Last time she came

on the show, she was talking about her New York Times bestselling book, Set Boundaries, Find Peace.

Today she's back to talk about her newest bestselling book. It's called Drama Free. Some of the

things she talks about today are how to set limits with your family, how to deal with difficult

people, and how to stick to the boundaries that you've set. Make sure to stick around until the end

of the episode for The Therapist Take. It's the part of the show where I'll break down NEDRA

strategies and share how you can apply them to your own life. So for the therapist take. It's the part of the show where I'll break down Nedra strategies

and share how you can apply them to your own life. So here's Nedra Glover to Wob on how to be

drama-free. Nedra Glover to Wob, welcome back to the Very Well Mind podcast. Thank you for having me again.

Yeah, well, there's so many guests out there that it's not very often that we have the same person back twice. But as soon as I saw, you had another book hitting the shelves. One of the first things I did was send out an email to see if we could get you back on. So I'm just grateful that you wrote this book and grateful to talk to you again. The last time you came on the show, we talked about your first book,

which was Set Boundaries, Find Peace. Since then, you came out with a workbook, which is also amazing.

And now your new book is called Drama Free. And I feel like it is the best time in the world to launch a book

about drama and relationships because so many people seem to be struggling with that

issue, especially in today's world. Yeah, I don't think it's a new issue, but I think the way on

which we deal with family relationships is really different. Many people have stepped away

from the belief that blood is thicker than water and family is everything.

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