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An Old Timey Podcast

27: The Gross History of the Lobotomy

An Old Timey Podcast

An Old Timey Podcast

True Crime, History, Comedy

4.91.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2024

⏱️ 115 minutes

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Summary

Walter Jackson Freeman wanted to do something *big.* As a neurologist for the nation’s largest psychiatric hospital, he saw patients who desperately needed help. But, absent any major medical breakthroughs, Walter was powerless to do much of anything.

So he spent years searching for *the thing* that separated people with mental illnesses from the normies. He studied brains. He measured them. He compared. In the end, he came up with nothing. He was devastated by his lack of progress. Then, in 1936, he came across the research of a Portuguese neurologist named Antonio Egas Moniz. Antonio had just developed a new procedure called a leucotomy. He’d performed it on 20 patients, and it had helped some of them.

Walter wasn’t the least bit skeptical. He took the leucotomy, gave it a little spin and a new name, and began performing it with reckless abandon. It would be years before people understood the risks of the lobotomy.

Remember, kids, history hoes always cite their sources! For this episode, Kristin pulled from:
“The Lobotomist” episode of American Experience
“Rosemary: the Hidden Kennedy Daughter,” book review by Meryl Gordon for The New York Times
“D.C. Neurosurgeon Pioneered 'Operation Icepick' Technique,” by By Glenn Frankel for the Washington Post
“Walter Jackson Freeman, Father of the Lobotomy,” By Al Ridenour for Mental Floss
“My Lobotomy” episode of StoryCorp

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Hear ye, hear ye. You are listening to an old-timey podcast. I'm Kristen Caruso.

0:38.0

And I got offered an AARP card at the age of 29. It's Norman Caruso and on this episode I'll be talking about

0:46.0

lobotomies oh that's fun oh we're gonna have a grand old time today.

0:53.8

You know, back in the day, if you had an AARP card,

0:56.8

you got 10% off your lobotomy.

0:59.2

Huh, her, her, ha.

1:00.9

That's funny, come on.

1:04.0

Oh, Norm.

1:05.0

They were like, this, this fellow's name is Norman.

1:09.0

He's due for his AARP card.

1:11.0

That's the only guess I can make for why I got offered an AARP card.

1:16.6

The only guess, that's the perfectly logical explanation. Everyone named Norman, Bernard, Milton, anyone with those names got an AARP card.

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