278: Neil Herman and Kevin Hallinan – 1981 Brink's Armored Car Robbery

FBI Retired Case File Review

Jerri Williams

True Crime, Interviews, Fiction, History, Fbi, Government, Truecrime

4.6 • 2.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Retired agent Neil Herman and retired NYPD Detective/Lt. Kevin Hallinan review the three-year crime spree in the New York metropolitan area that culminated on October 20, 1981, when 11 members of the Weather Underground, a radical domestic terrorist group, carried out a Brink's armored car robbery at the Nanuet Mall in Nyack, New York. Using high-powered weapons, the terrorist group stole 1.6 million dollars, and shot and killed bank security guard Peter Paige. During their getaway, they also shot and killed Nyack Police Department Sgt. Edward J. O'Grady, Jr. and Police Officer Waverly "Chipper" Brown.

This case, code-named NYROB, was the first major investigation of the FBI-NYPD Joint Terrorism Task Force after it was formed in 1980 to investigate the growing number of terrorist acts targeting New York. Neil and Kevin also discuss modern terrorism and the early days of the multi-agency FBI-NYPD Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) partnership, the first in the county. Their messages to active agents and law enforcement are truly inspirational.

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0:00.0	Welcome to episode 278 of FBI Retired Case File Review with Jerry Williams.
0:12.9	I'm a retired agent on a mission to show you who the FBI is and what the FBI does through
0:19.0	my books, my blog and my podcast case reviews with former colleagues.
0:23.7	Today, we get to speak to a retired agent, Neil Herman, and retired NYPD Detective
0:29.8	Lieutenant Kevin Hallenan.
0:31.9	They review the three-year crime spree in the New York metropolitan area that culminated
0:37.7	on October 20, 1981, when 11 members of the weather underground, a radical domestic
0:44.6	terrorist group, carried out a brink's armored car robbery in Niac, New York.
0:50.6	Using high-powered weapons, the terrorist group stalled $1.6 million during the robbery,
0:57.1	they shot and killed guard Peter Page.
1:00.2	During their getaway, they also shot and killed Niac Police Department Sergeant Eduardo
1:05.8	Grady Jr., and police officer Waverly Chipper Brown.
1:10.5	This case, code-named NIROB, was the first major investigation of the FBI NYPD Joint
1:19.0	Terrorism Task Force, JTTF, after it was first formed in 1980 to investigate the growing
1:26.3	number of terrorist acts targeting New York.
1:30.0	During the interview, Neil and Kevin also discussed the early days of the multi-agency FBI
1:36.2	NYPD JTTF Partnership, the first in the country.
1:41.6	And the shownuts for this episode, there's also a link to an old article which summarized
1:46.8	the original memorandum of understanding, MOU, signed by the head of the New York FBI
1:53.6	and the NYPD Commissioner.
1:56.4	Neil Herman served in the FBI for nearly 26 years.
2:00.2	During his career, he primarily worked national and international terrorism investigations
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