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We are coming to you live from Greenville, South Carolina at a fresh grounded faith conference it's me singer-songwriter

Sean Groves and Tammy Trent the author and the singer and now the co-host of the

Life Today TV show and we are talking about how to know if you are called

a ministry, how to show grace to someone maybe who has disappointed you, and we get very practical about how to manage depression. I also

tell a story about climbing the great wall of China when it was a slab of ice

no kidding and it was the slab of ice, no kidding.

And it was the dead of winter, so, well, it's quite a story.

Anyway, I also tell the story of my worst makeup mix-up ever. This was funny and it was warm and it was emotional, practical

and wise and it was everything you need to make this day even better.

So pull up your chair to the bistro table

and let's fill some beans.

Well, welcome to the 413 podcast,

where practical encouragement and biblical wisdom,

set you and I up to live what we call the I can life

because you can do all things through Christ

who strengthens you.

Now, welcome your host Jennifer Rothschild.

Hey our friends Jennifer here and we're so glad you here Casey Wright my seeing

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