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National Park After Dark

285: A Love Worth Fighting For. Speaking Up For Our Public Lands.

National Park After Dark

Audioboom Studios

True Crime, Places & Travel, Wilderness, Society & Culture, Sports

4.84.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2025

⏱️ 118 minutes

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Summary

On Valentine’s Day 4,400 Public Land workers were abruptly and illegally terminated from their positions and since then, news of executive orders threatening to exploit our public lands for their natural resources have been flooding headlines.

To better understand the gravity of this situation and to hear straight from those most directly effected we are joined by Yosemite and Devils Postpile Ranger Alex Wild, Liz Crandall a field ranger in Deschutes National Forest, and Morgan Smith a Biological Science Technician for the US Forest Service. All three were recently terminated from their jobs due to the recent federal budget cuts.

They share their love of the outdoors, explain the importance of their jobs, and speak to the dangerous repercussions our public lands will experience as a result of these terminations and extreme staffing shortages.

How you can help!

Sign petitions and write to your reps!

Whitehouse resources:

Unleashing American Energy


Unleashing Alaska’s Resource Potential


Immediate Expansion of Logging Timber (including BLM land, National Forests, and National Parks)

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everyone. Welcome back to National Park After Dark. I'm Danielle and I'm Cassie.

0:23.6

And today we have a different episode, but one that I think that is really needed for today.

0:30.6

And I know a lot of you have been reaching out to us and we've posted a lot on social media about what is going on right now with our public lands.

0:40.1

And there's a lot of questions in the air. There's a lot of confusion. There's a lot of anger.

0:43.7

There's a lot of sadness. A lot of people, thousands of public land workers were removed from

0:48.2

their jobs on Valentine's Day. And people are questioning why, how, what is happening? And a lot of people are really worried

0:57.3

about our landscapes, our public lands, which we think is totally warranted and we hear you. And

1:03.5

today we really wanted to address that. One, by taking the time to really answer some questions

1:09.9

that a lot of you have. and we've been doing a lot

1:12.0

of research on this ourselves, but also we've decided to have some people on that were terminated

1:18.2

from their positions in the public land service who can tell their stories as well. Yeah, we figured

1:23.6

that the time is now to get this episode out. But thank you for your patience. We've been

1:28.5

hearing everyone say, you should do an episode on this. We've been, you know, taking the time to go

1:32.4

through hundreds of people who have responded to us that have been affected and wanted to share

1:37.3

their stories. And so thank you to everyone who sent something in. It's very appreciated. But like

1:42.7

Cassie said, we do have three people that are going

1:45.5

to be included in this episode that we'll talk to in just a bit. But let's kind of lay the framework

1:49.9

here and the groundwork of what is going on. So we can kind of all go into these interviews with

1:56.3

a collective understanding. Because like Cassie just mentioned, there's a lot of questions circulating

2:01.9

and a lot of confusion about different things. So the question we've received countless times

2:07.1

is why are so many people who work for public lands being fired? Today, we want to help answer that

2:12.6

question by explaining the new executive orders from the Trump administration and how many people that,

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