Do you listen to punk rock?

I listened to the Sex Pistols.

Yeah. When I saw you, my initial reaction was like, this is like a kind of a grungy german punk rock dude well but literary literary punk rock kind of

dude if you say grunge um i saw actually one of the last concerts of nirvana in new york

and then i was in the grocery store like an organic store, and they announced that Kurt Cobain had shot himself.

And that day, I received a music tape from Berlin with electronic music,

and I kind of concluded all this punk rock grunge stuff that's dead,

and the new music is electronic music.

So that's actually why I moved back from New York

where I was living in 95 to Berlin. Really? Yeah. And then you started listening to Dobstap

in Europe. I don't know. I just went to clubs in Berlin which were playing techno music,

which was new at the time, you know. I had exploded right around then. Yeah. I thought it was

always a... They called a house music though then. Yeah. I thought it was always...

They called it house music though, right?

That's what it was called.

Well, no, there's different kinds of electronic music.

House is one, techno is another.

Then drum and bass came, so it's still fascinating. But at the time,

it was like new. So, I don't know where we're trying to go, but this is... We're not trying. We're

not trying. We're just going. I'm happy. Good. Me too. Your shirt is amazing. You're, that's the

meth that the Nazis were taking on your shirt right the pervitin

yeah i mean i i like the branding um the design also the name is very good it's a good brand name

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