Oh, he's cute. Mr. I can never sleep when I'm traveling. He's hugging his pillow like a sloth on a branch.

He couldn't sleep before. Now listen to him. Sounds like an elephant with a chest infection.

Well, they call him a dreamer. And now they're right.

All aboard, Mr. I can never sleep when I'm travelling find all the comfort you need in the quiet

lounge Piando ferries there is another way

if the world today is too bad to have children, when infant mortality rates are a fraction of what they were even when I was talking,

when more and more people have got enough food and good drinking water,

our parents should be locked up for their

criminality for having us. Didn't they know the world was going to

collapse? We actually have it incredibly good, not perfect. We've made so much progress in so many ways. If all you can do as there's

less and as bad news is to focus on the bad things and get to the point where you

don't want to have children, and I think it's very sad. Can we get out of the idea that after making these

extraordinary strides of human problems, we're now at the end of it.

Hello, welcome back to the Brendan O'Neill show with me Brendan O'Neill and my special

guest this week, Paul Morland. Paul, welcome to the show.

Hello.

It's great to have you on and I want to talk to you about your new book which is called no one left

Why the world needs more children

So you've got this kind of scary title

Cundering up a world in which there will be zero human beings,

and then you've got this positive subtitle, Why the World Needs More Children.

You've written this in your capacity as an esteemed demographer, someone who's been observing population trends for some time,

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