If you said to anyone, even now, you know Mark Phillips?

They go, no, you never heard of him.

In all the books, everyone's written, they always talk about Woolwich,

they never talk about Marr.

Half of them probably don't know me.

I just know the name.

What was it like being in the ICF in the 70s and 80s?

Probably different to the way everyone thinks it was.

I don't have had firms, little firms, big firms, whatever you want to call them. Andy Swaller? Yeah. Who's the main face? He's full full throttle.

He's mental.

He's like, that's what we're doing.

He's obsessive it.

The same with me.

I just love the game of football.

But football has always been my main love and still is now.

What does the buzz used to get from being part of the ICF? of this country is controlled by the media and what the media puts out and what the media

want you to believe. People that know, no, no, West Hamill always the one.

Yeah. Nauty. Yeah. Very naughty. I've never had a football agent ring me up and go,

oh, I've got this player, he ain't that good really. But have a look at him. He's always

a best player for you. And football unions always go, yeah, there was like 50 of us 300 men which it's always

they all ran it's always it's always how did you get the job for west down what and did they

know your reputation at the time rio lamppard carrick cole will all come through with us together

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