People don't quite understand what the point of this stuff is. One, it's fun. It has to be fun. So if you don't like it,

fuck you.

See you can group at 60 but what do you use it like what's your what's your setup

I'm using the Matthew VtX okay the smaller of

fucking yeah I like the snake farm this is this is Jared's thing man like he started this is Jared's thing man like he started this

and he didn't start it so a couple other Air Force guys and he came in a

little later it's a skateboard company and they're fucking super cool guys they're all

like J-Tacks skateboarders are worrying me right now.

Why?

So they used to be like so anti-establishment, right?

They're like the rebels, you're like the government.

And now they're like, yeah, you can put sand in our like skate park and they're like yeah you know

down with down with the stuff yeah yeah what happened I don't

know man it's weird that because how old are you I'm old no I'm a 70 year old. I mean we're like 40 we'll say

47. Mid 40s. So we're like bucking the system and we're going counterculture and there seems to be this

younger generation that's more conformist.

Wild! It seems very weird to me.

It seems like we should be flipping this around somehow.

Normally isn't that the way it goes?

It's not like your parents are like, hey, you should go out and break the rules.

Like your parents typically aren't doing that.

Whereas like, we're like, no, like this is stupid.

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