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3120: Debt Can Be A Good Thing - In Moderation by Paula Pant of Afford Anything on Financial Freedom

Optimal Finance Daily - Financial Independence and Money Advice

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Investing, Business, Education, Self-improvement

4.41.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3120: Paula Pant challenges extreme attitudes toward debt, showing how both blind borrowing and rigid debt aversion can hurt your financial future. With a nuanced perspective, she explores how strategic debt, particularly in education, can lead to massive returns, but only if you carefully evaluate the risks, opportunities, and real-life trade-offs. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://affordanything.com/debt-is-a-good-thing/ Quotes to ponder: "Both attitudes will make you poor." "It’s much easier to get in debt than it is to get out." "Your house is a lousy investment. But a student loan has the potential to provide amazing returns." Episode references: Georgetown University Report on College ROI: https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/the-college-payoff/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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1:04.8

thing in moderation by Paula Pan of Afford Anything.com.

1:18.0

There seem to be two prevailing attitudes when it comes to debt, the Bring It On camp and the I won't touch it with a 10-foot pole camp. Here's a secret. Both attitudes will make you poor.

1:25.6

Debt. Bring it on. One camp of people are nonchal on about it. Five-year car loan?

1:32.5

No problem. After all, I can't have a car that breaks down. I rely on my car to get to work. Home mortgage?

1:40.0

Of course. How else are you going to buy a home? Credit card balance? Well, maybe a little.

1:45.6

But there was a sale, and I need a nice suit for my job.

1:49.9

Debt won't touch it with a 10-foot pole.

1:53.6

The other camp of people display a knee-jerk response to the horror stories they hear about others being buried up to their ears in debt.

2:02.5

This camp of people proclaimed to be allergic to debt.

2:05.8

They can't imagine carrying a penny of debt and they won't entertain the idea of it.

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