313: Toby Young: Starmer’s thoughtpolice

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🗓️ 2 January 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Toby Young – general secretary of the Free Speech Union – returns to The Brendan O’Neill Show. Toby and Brendan discuss how ‘banter bouncers’ could soon be deployed in pubs and football stadiums, the perils of banning Islamophobia and why woke isn’t over yet.

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0:00.0	Stamas Britain is like North Korea run by David Brent. Stama's reaction to the Southport
0:07.3	attack and its aftermath betrayed his authoritarian character, urging authorities to clamp down
0:15.1	not just on people who were involved in the riots, but on people who had commented on the Southport attack or the
0:24.0	disorder that followed. Any criticism, particularly robust criticism of multiculturalism,
0:30.6	of mass immigration, of the impact that mass immigration is having on our public services, that in our society in the
0:39.6	eyes of our regime is a form of heresy and should be punished.
0:45.9	Hello, welcome back to the Brendan O'Neill show with me, Brendan O'Neill, and my special
0:50.4	guest this week, Toby, welcome to the show.
0:54.0	Thanks, Brendan. So first things
0:56.5	first, congratulations on your peerage. Thank you very much. Very well deserved. I won't be calling
1:02.1	you Lord Young. I'm still going to call you Toby, but there you go. I think that's true of most
1:06.6	people, Brendan. So Toby, let's talk about the year in free speech. And it's a good time to look back
1:15.2	on what's been going on with this most important liberty in the UK. In your capacity as one of
1:22.7	Britain's best known free speech campaigners, you've got a lot to say on this issue. And you've
1:26.7	written an excellent piece for Spiked about all the ups and downs for freedom of speech in 2024. So I want
1:33.0	to talk about a bit of that with you. And I want to start off by asking you about how bad the
1:37.7	Labour government has been. Because you say in your piece that you were pretty scared of a
1:42.5	Labour government, the prospect of a Labour government and what it would do for freedom of speech. And you say in your piece that you were pretty scared of a Labour government, the prospect of a Labour government and
1:44.9	what it would do for freedom of speech. And you say in your piece that it's actually turned
1:48.9	out to be worse than you'd expect it. So give us a taste, give us a flavour of how bad things
1:54.2	have been since Labour took over. Yeah, well, they've been pretty bad. I think we all had
2:00.5	low expectations, but Kirstama has
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