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What Trump has kind of done is make sort of trading floor right wing a bit cool.

You started seeing people doing the Trump dance.

That is now the thing that's considered entertaining, funny.

It's on the main stage.

The stories that the country's paying attention to are shifting to sort of, you know,

Taylor Swift and her football player boyfriend.

I mean, I think the whole, like, whoa is me whimpering from a seven-eighths Caucasian,

you know, quote-unquote black noble woman. Like,

people are done with it.

Hello, welcome back to the Brendan O'Neill show with me, Brendan O'Neill, and my special guest this week, Wilfred Riley. Will, welcome to the show. Great to be back on. Great to have you

back on. And there's a lot to talk about in relation to your great nation of the United States of America,

which the whole world is watching right now.

And I was thinking before this podcast, I was thinking the last time we had you on was to talk about your excellent book,

Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me, which I can see behind you on your shelf,

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