I think we're saying enough with that and let's hype other women because so often in the past,

we were rooted in competition with each other and we are making enough seats at the table to be

able to not have competition. It's not a zero-sum game. We got to act like that. There's so much

power in our collective. We just need to honor it and leverage it and do it.

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Hey, you're on air with Ella and today it is my pleasure to introduce you to Ellen Tafe.

Hey, Ellen, how are you?

I'm great. How are you doing, Ellen?

I'm excited because I was just talking about you.

I was talking with Dr. Kinga Maniche. We were talking about women in business.

We were talking about the glass ceiling. And I mentioned you and a concept I had never heard before called the mirrored door.

And you wrote, you literally wrote the book about it. And I am so pleased to have you on to talk about it.

But Ellen, before we even jump in, would

you kindly tell us who you are and what you do? Sure. So my name is Ellen Taith, and I had a 25-year

corporate career working for major companies like PepsiCo, Royal Caribbean World Pole. And since that time, I have run a small

business for five years. I'm a speaker and now an author. And I, in the last seven years,

I'm a clinical associate professor at the Kellogg School of Management, where I teach leadership

and run the women's leadership program.

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