Okay, welcome everyone to a new episode of the Jeff Nippard podcast. In this episode, I'm going to be

interviewing Dr. Mike Isretel. Longtime listeners of the show will be familiar with Mike at this point,

but for any of you guys who don't know, Mike is a really intelligent guy. He's a PhD in sports

physiology, and he's also really hilarious. So I think

that this is going to be as much an entertaining conversation for you guys as it is an informative

one. Also, this whole interview conversation discussion is available on my YouTube channel,

so I'll have that linked in the show notes. If you'd like to

watch the video, maybe hop around a little bit. Also, I'm planning to do a bunch more episodes

on this podcast. My goal is to do one interview every month. So next month, I'm either going to be

doing part two of this interview with Mike, or I'll be interviewing Kamal Patel ofexamined.com

about the vegan diet, which I think will be really interesting for everyone. So in this

conversation with Mike, we talk mostly about training volume, so the total amount of work that

you're doing in the gym. And I kind of allow Mike to elaborate on many of his concepts that he's

developed over the last few years and how they've evolved and how he's kind of changed and, I guess,

adapted his view on the maximum recoverable volume concept and just some updates since that

volume roundtable that we did a few years ago.

Also, we do get into a little bit of a disagreement where I'll play devil's advocate against Mike,

specifically around the topic of relative training intensity or training proximity to failure,

which I think you guys will find very interesting.

So if you do enjoy it, hit us up on social media,

let us know what you think of the episode. I'll leave all of that linked in the show notes as well.

And also Mike's articles on his website are a fantastic resource. So if you're kind of missing

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