35: Living More with Less: Chatting Consumerism with The Minimalists

The Primal Kitchen Podcast

Mark Sisson & Morgan Zanotti

Fitness, Entrepreneur, Sisson, Parenting, Health, Wellness, Weightloss, Primal, Paleo, Nutrition, Health & Fitness

4.4 • 717 Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

What is the real pursuit of happiness?

This week, Morgan has an enlightening discussion with Josh Milburn and Ryan Nicodemus, otherwise known as The Minimalists. Josh and Ryan climbed up the corporate ladder in their 20's to obtain the standard American dream of a consumer-driven life with luxury cars, big houses full of pricey material things. After being rocked by a series of life-altering events, Josh went on the journey to find a more meaningful life getting his childhood best friend Ryan involved along the way. Since starting their journey, The Minimalists have had two successful documentaries on Netflix, Minimalism and Less is Now, and have written four books, their most recent being Love People Use Things.

In this chat, they go in depth about what the pursuit of happiness means and how to be fulfilled without material things. They believe that all things they own should serve a purpose and provide advice on how to maintain this lifestyle. Milburn and Nicodemus go in depth on how minimalism goes beyond the scope of material things, but how it can help improve other areas of our lives by removing all types of life clutter such as calendar clutter, relationship clutter, and advertisement clutter.

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0:00.0	I was spending money I didn't have to buy things I didn't need to impress people I didn't like.
0:08.1	Hey everyone. I'm Morgan, co-founder of Primal Kitchen and host of the Primal Kitchen podcast.
0:13.0	Today I'm talking with the pioneers of the 21st century minimalism movement,
0:17.8	Josh Milburn and Ryan Nicodemus. Josh and Ryan climbed up the corporate ladder in their
0:22.0	20s to obtain the standard American successful life of expensive clothes, luxury cars, and big
0:27.2	suburban houses. They thought they had everything one could want in life until life altering events
0:32.2	like death and divorce changed their perspective. And they've been asking themselves what they
0:36.6	truly wanted out of life
0:37.9	ever since.
0:38.6	Thus began their journey into letting go of the material world.
0:41.7	And since then, they've helped over 20 million people live meaningful lives with less
0:46.1	material items through their website, books, podcasts, and films.
0:50.1	Before we get started, a brief reminder that any and all opinions and views shared by
0:53.6	hosts and guests on this podcast are the speaker's own and do not represent the view of Primal Kitchen or its affiliates or parent company.
0:59.8	Hi, guys.
1:00.8	How are you? How are you doing?
1:03.2	Great. Thanks for having us.
1:04.7	Yeah, we're so excited. I was just saying before we started that I interview a lot of people and my husband was most excited to have you guys on the show.
1:12.9	He was most excited to hear I was interviewing you of anyone I've ever talked to.
1:16.2	He did, I think this might be your minimalist challenge.
1:19.2	This is like I'm talking 2000, maybe, I don't know, 16, 17.
1:24.8	He did like a 30 day challenge where in the first day you get rid of one thing and then the second day you get rid of two things. Then the third day, three things. Was this a challenge you guys started? Oh, yeah. That's definitely us. So Josh and I, we understand that like, you know, getting rid of things, it can be a bit boring. You know, the thought of decluttering doesn't sound like a lot of fun. So we thought if we could inject a little fun with cluttering, then, you know, more people
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