#352 Gurwinder Bhogal - Undercover in England's Extremist Scene
Real Talk with Zuby
Zuby
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 27 February 2025
⏱️ 114 minutes
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Summary
Gurwinder Bhogal is a writer and researcher known for his deep insights into psychology, technology, and the way humans process information. He joins Zuby to share his experiences infiltrating an extremist group in a British town north of London. They dive into the psychology of conservatives and liberals, the balance between IQ and common sense, and why intelligence alone doesn’t guarantee wisdom. They also discuss the West’s shift away from common sense, the rapid rate of change shaping the next 50 years, and the growing divide in humanity’s future.
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(00:00) Introduction
(03:23) Gurwinder’s time in tech
(06:43) Gurwinder infiltrates extremist group
(20:16) Prison sentencing/repeat offenders, trauma & more
(32:23) Conservative vs Liberal psychology, & character traits
(39:48) IQ vs common sense, & life outcomes
(44:34) Intelligence, Big 5 Personality Traits, & wisdom
(50:23) The West’s move away from common sense
(1:00:05) Rate of change & the next 25 to 50 years
(1:06:32) Humanities bifurcation
(1:11:16) Issues with prediction
(1:15:22) Over-intellectualizing societal issues
(1:18:08) Enforcing the ban of abortion/artificial wombs
(1:28:10) Convenience culture
(1:29:53) Man playing God
(1:37:57) High status aspirations as prediction signal
(1:48:49) Outro
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| 0:54.4 | everything secure. One of the interesting things that I found about the extremists in Luton |
| 0:59.1 | was that they were not poor people, they were not work, they're not even working class, |
| 1:05.1 | they were middle class. They had been given pretty much everything that anybody could be expected |
| 1:09.6 | to have in the UK. A lot of them sort of |
| 1:13.1 | were highly intelligent. They worked as medical students or they were working in architecture |
| 1:18.7 | or engineering. So there was no trauma. There was no poor education. There was no poverty |
| 1:24.6 | involved. These were normal people. In fact, they were above average in wealth. |
| 1:30.3 | They were above average in education. And so I realized that all of the traditional explanations that were particularly being given by the left were wrong about Islamic extremism. |
| 1:41.3 | And I actually realized that a lot of it really just stemmed to... |
| 1:50.0 | I am the man, sick with the slang, sick and I'm destined for fame, |
| 1:53.7 | true for the fan, not for the grand, stunted me are destined for pain. |
| 1:57.1 | I do not front, I do not scam, put some respect on my name. |
| 2:00.4 | Sick like a cocaine, click and I bang. Y'all going to remember the name. |
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