355 Envoy 3936 Wrong Runway Landing at O’Hare with Rob Mark & HondaJet Crash in Arizona
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🗓️ 9 November 2024
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Max talks first about the fatal crash of N57HP, a HondaJet, which crashed earlier this week during takeoff from Falcon Field in Mesa, AZ. The aircraft reached 133 knots on the runway, well above the rotation speed of 115 knots, before rejecting its takeoff.
Max also talked with Rob Mark about a near-miss incident at Chicago O'Hare involving Envoy Flight 3936, an Embraer 170. The incident took place on September 25th, when the aircraft was cleared to land on Runway 10 Center but mistakenly landed on Runway 10 Left instead. This misalignment was the result of multiple small errors—a classic "Swiss cheese" moment where various lapses align to create a potentially dangerous situation
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| 0:00.0 | Have you ever misidentified the airport you were planning to land at or misidentified the runway you were supposed to land on? |
| 0:08.5 | Today we have three stories of experienced pilots making those kinds of mistakes, including one in which an airline crew recently landed on the wrong runway at Chicago O'Hare. |
| 0:18.6 | And to help walk us through those stories, award-winning journalist |
| 0:21.7 | Rob Mark will be joining us today. And during the second half of the show, we'll talk more about |
| 0:26.1 | my somewhat controversial episode 353 called System Failure, Decision Making, and Choosing the Best |
| 0:32.1 | Airport to Land. And in that segment, I have an apology to you, the listener, as I felt the tone of that show was not what you've come to expect from me, and I'll explain how they came about. |
| 0:42.0 | Hello again and welcome to Aviation News Talk, where we talk in General Aviation. |
| 0:45.9 | My name is Max Truscott. I've been flying for 50 years. I'm the author of several books in the 2008 National Flight Instructor of the Year. |
| 0:52.1 | My mission is to help you become the safest possible pilot. |
| 0:55.3 | Last week in episode 354, we talked with Eric Peterson about the very first sale of G100 |
| 1:01.2 | UL fuel in the nation. |
| 1:03.1 | So if you didn't hear that episode, you may want to check it out at AviationNewsstalk.com |
| 1:06.9 | slash 354. |
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| 1:41.2 | Before we jump into our conversation with Rob Mark, let me mention that I'm back |
| 1:45.1 | on the road again. At the moment, I'm recording from my hotel room in Tennessee, as I'm about |
| 1:49.5 | to bring back a brand new series SR22 TG7 with a client. The G7 is the model introduced earlier this |
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