Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast, this is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're hearing this you're not currently on our subscriber feed and will only be hearing the first part of this conversation.

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So if you enjoy what we're doing here, please consider becoming one. Today I'm speaking with Cass Sunstein.

Cass is the most cited legal scholar in the U.S.

and from 2009 to 2012 he served as the

administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.

Since then he served in various capacities in the U.S.

government and advised many nations as well as the United Nations, the Asian

Development Bank, and the

professor at Harvard Law School and the co-author of several

interesting books, nudge, noise, and his latest, which he wrote with Talishirot, is Look Again, the power of noticing

what was always there.

And today, Cass and I speak about the book. We talk about habituation and its consequences.

The way we habituate to positive and negative experiences.

We discuss things like marriage and happiness and meaning and variety, doing good

versus feeling good, midlife crises, having kids, wealth and happiness, things versus experience, and then we pivot to topics of

more political relevance, we talk about the illusory truth effect, misinformation and social media, echo chambers

and extremism, what governments can do to respond to misinformation, free speech on college campuses, the 2024 presidential election, and

other topics. And now I bring you, Cass Sunstein. I am here with Cass Sunstein.

I am here with Cass Sunstein.

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