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The Rest Is Classified

36. CIA Mind Control: Fighting Communism with LSD (Ep 2)

The Rest Is Classified

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4.6732 Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Who was the eccentric chemist at the heart of the CIA's most controversial experiments? What happened when Langley was turned into a testing ground for mind-altering drugs? And how did the quest for a truth serum lead to a psychedelic free-for-all? Inside the CIA, the search for a mind control breakthrough took a bizarre turn. Driven by the relentless pursuit of Sidney Gottlieb, LSD was introduced into the daily lives of unsuspecting officers. From laced coffee to drug-fuelled office parties, the agency's experiments pushed the boundaries of both science and sanity. Listen as Gordon and David expose the shocking truth about the CIA's top-secret experiments with LSD, the devastating consequences, and the enduring legacy of MK Ultra. ------------------- Order a signed edition of David's latest book, The Seventh Floor, via this link. ------------------- Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ www.nordvpn.com/restisclassified It’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! Email: [email protected] Twitter: @triclassified Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Callum Hill Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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Within the agency, Dr Gottlieb found time to lead the chemists of the technical services staff on a series of increasingly daring experiments with LSD.

1:29.3

They spiked each other's coffee and liquor they spreaded on their food.

1:33.3

They tripped out in their offices and in safe houses in Washington and beyond in the Maryland countryside.

1:39.3

They were stoned for days at a time.

1:42.3

There were moments of black comedy, a hallucinating scientist

1:45.7

suddenly decided that he was Fred Astaire and grabbed the nearest secretary, convinced she was

1:50.9

Ginger Rogers. Dr Gottlieb regarded such incidents as the usual hiccups in searching for the magic

1:57.2

technique he was convinced the communists were using.

2:05.6

His sixth sense convinced Dr Gottlieb that there might be no quick answers.

2:11.5

The only certain way to arrive at the one which mattered success was to continue experimenting. He encouraged his staff to go in search of how to take possession of a man's mind,

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