362 - Dr. Martin Shaw - Christian Wonder Tales
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
4.8 • 824 Ratings
🗓️ 10 October 2024
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
I had a wonderful discussion with the captivating storyteller and mythographer, Dr. Martin Shaw, about the value of - not only understanding - but also telling and entering into stories. We talk about the various traditions of storytelling covered in his upcoming course, how to approach these tales of our inheritance, the modern taming of Christianity, and how Bible stories are different from pagan and more peripheral myths.
Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/uPQdfx5a-R4
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Mythographer, writer, and storyteller Dr Martin Shaw takes us deep into the heart of what he calls Christian Wonder Tales. Profoundly mythic, these teaching stories range from the early saints through to the grandeur of the Round Table and Arthurian tradition. Shaw emphasises these stories as remerging providentially on time for the perils of modern life. Filled with vocation, sacrifice, and courage, these are an inheritance many of us simply didn’t know we had.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
00:44 - Intro music
01:09 - Start
01:52 - A failure that makes honey
05:46 - Pre-Christian Ireland
08:05 - The Arthurian tradition
09:53 - A rule for life
12:29 - Follow an animal
16:09 - Return to these stories
20:20 - The soul is not only fed by logic
24:53 - Why has Christianity become so mundane?
33:39 - Stories that are too strange
36:00 - How were they preserved?
38:08 - Stories that Martin and Jonathan struggled with
44:54 - The Bible
48:57 - You can't draw Jesus with one line
53:07 - The Gospel seminar
56:06 - Let the stories do the work
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| 0:00.0 | Do you know, my whole life, no one has ever said to me, if there's one thing I just can't stand, it's a great story. It's never happened. And so I encourage everybody to be storytellers. Don't explore a story without actually telling it, living in the room, living in your jaw, because something essential |
| 0:22.2 | gets passed on there. The soul is not fed entirely by logic. We are fed by images. We're not fed |
| 0:30.1 | really by ideas. Ideas are interesting and we can puzzle on them, but when we want to be absolutely |
| 0:37.0 | polaxed by wonder, |
| 0:39.3 | it is a story one way or another that is going to do it. |
| 0:43.3 | This is Jonathan Pejot. Welcome to the symbolic world. |
| 0:59.0 | Hello, everyone. It is my joy to be here with Martin Shaw. |
| 1:12.0 | Everybody who watches this knows who Martin Shaw is. |
| 1:14.8 | He is a wonderful storyteller, a professor, an author, |
| 1:19.7 | and he was there with us at the Symbolic World Summit this year. |
| 1:23.3 | And Martin is also doing his very first online class with us on Christian Wonder Tales. |
| 1:30.8 | He's been spending several years, I guess, by now, going back into those ancient stories, |
| 1:35.8 | all those weird stories that nobody dares look at anymore and is going to make them resurface |
| 1:42.0 | for us. And so, Martin, thanks for coming. |
| 1:46.7 | Thank you, Jonathan. |
| 1:47.6 | Pleasure to be here today, |
| 1:49.1 | and I am really excited about this course. |
| 1:51.5 | So why were you attracted to these stories, |
| 1:54.8 | these Christian wonder tell? |
| 1:55.8 | Like what is it about them? |
| 1:59.4 | I like them because you're not clinging onto them in the way you may, one of the |
| 2:08.4 | Gospels, for example. |
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