The now that we're a family podcast.

Mrs. Sally Clarkson, I tell you what, what a privilege it is to be speaking with you today.

I know our listeners are going to be well familiar with much of your work, but I'm going to do my

best to give a, you know, a synopsis that is probably

not hopefully too far off of the mark. And you can correct me, because I'm sure some of these

numbers have changed since, since I, you know, that maybe they've been updated. But for my

understanding, you've been married, uh, 41, is it 41 years? 43, see, there you go.

I tell you what, math keeps changing.

43 years, you've raised four children and you homeschool those children.

You're a grandmother.

You've written, I'm just going to say over 30 books because 33.

33 books.

Wow.

So you've spent over 50 years in doing ministry, both internationally and

domestically, speaking at conferences internationally, domestically, doing your own conferences

as well, hosting and running your own conferences with your family, working with your husband, with your children.

And I tell you what, all those things in it, each one of those things I should say in it of themselves

is noteworthy. And I'm sure I miss some things that are maybe more important to you. But I'm wondering,

in your own words, you know, when you bump into an old friend

these days, what do you say you're doing now? You know, what is Sally Clarkson doing in 2025?

Do you know, we don't really talk about ourselves much to our friends. As a matter of fact,

a lot of people have no idea what we're doing. But for the people that work with me and that we all dream together and Clay and I,

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