Welcome to the Pure Desire Podcast.

You're biblically based and clinically informed approach to healing from betrayal and breaking free from porn.

Happy day to you, listener.

I'm your host, Trevor Windsor, and you're listening to Episode 365 of the Pure Desire podcast.

Here joining me, as always, is my co-host, Nick Stumbbell.

Knock-Dy-Nock.

Who's there?

This not a knock-knock.

A knock-nock joke starts knock-knock.

Knock-dy-knock is a totally different thing. I love how much I feel

like an idiot joke before. That's fair. I only have really one good knock knock joke and I've used it.

I don't remember it. But anyways, okay, so tie it in. We have a really exciting announcement, something specific to research today on the episode.

And we had our counterparts who are a part of the super host, which we talk a little bit about definition for that with Ashley Jameson and Heather Colbon to talk about this research stuff.

Yeah.

Knock-k-knit-knock-knock-knock comes from a children's book that I used to read with my kids where this obnoxious frog would come to the door and want to sit in on his

friend reading a book and popping popcorn. He kept like, you know, interjecting himself. And it was

fairly unwanted, but the main character always

felt too bad about saying no. And so anyway, I think of it in terms of today's conversation.

This is one of those topics that can feel like an unwanted guest at our front door, that's knocking

and saying, you need to pay attention to me. And for many

of us in the church, you know, in our own lives, if we've struggled, it's a topic that we'd rather

just leave it outside, not talk about it, not address it. But I think what we're going to talk about

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