So the other day I talked to a producer of her TV show who was interviewing coaches and they were looking for people for some kind of episode on life coaching and it became pretty clear pretty quickly that she was really looking for like a reality TV type of scenario

and that I was entirely too sane and balanced for her taste. In particular she

asked me several questions about coaching and therapy, and it was kind of clear that her goal was to see if I'd say something inflammatory on TV. Like, was I going to say, you know, all therapy is stupid or like, coaching solves every problem.

No one ever needs therapy or medication.

Or like, I don't believe in modern medicine, right?

Or like, just whatever would be very dramatic.

And of course, I didn't say any of that because I don't believe any of that. But it did make me think about this question because I do think that the therapy versus coaching kind of cage match that people are always trying to set up is really a red herring and it's kind of just designed to pit people against each other unnecessarily and unhelpfully.

As is so often the case when a choice or a question is framed as either this or that, one is good, one is bad, one is right, one is wrong,

you're usually missing like the reality of nuance and complexity in the world.

So in this episode I'm going to talk about how coaching and therapy can inform and support each other.

And I'm going to give you a few questions to think about when you are thinking about... I'm going to give you some questions to think about when you are thinking about, I'm going to give you some questions

to think about when you're thinking about, what kind of support to engage?

Welcome to Unfuck your brain.

I'm your host Kara Lowenthyle, master certified coach, and founder of the School of New Feminist Thop.

I'm here to help you turn down your anxiety, turn up your confidence, and create a life on your own terms one that you're truly

excited to live let's go

all right my friends let's get into this.

When I first started coaching, this felt like such a thorny topic to me.

It's really fascinating to reflect on like,

how calm I feel about this topic now compared to how anxious I felt about this topic when I first

started. And I think that's because I was a newer coach and of course I felt nervous about this big life

change I was making and this new philosophy on how to live.

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