367 - Rod Dreher - Living in Wonder
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
4.8 • 824 Ratings
🗓️ 21 November 2024
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Get Rod's book - Living in Wonder: Finding Mystery and Meaning in a Secular Age: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Wonder-Finding-Mystery-Meaning/dp/0310369126
YouTube version: https://youtu.be/KvNM1AefXN0
===========Book description===========
The West has become "disenchanted"--closed to the idea that the universe contains the supernatural, the metaphysical, or the non-material. Christianity is in crisis. People today are leaving the Church because faith has become dry and lifeless. But people aren't leaving faith for atheism. They are still searching for the divine, and it might just be right under their noses.
In Living in Wonder, thought leader, cultural critic, and New York Times bestselling author Rod Dreher shows you how to encounter and embrace wonder in the world. In his trademark mixture of analysis, reporting, and personal story, Dreher brings together history, cultural anthropology, neuroscience, and the ancient Church to show you--no matter your religious affiliation--how to reconnect with the natural world and the Great Tradition of Christianity so you can relate to the world with more depth and connection.
He shares stories of miracles, rumors of angels, and outbreaks of awe to offer hope, as well as a guide for discerning and defending the truth in a confusing and spiritually dark culture, full of contemporary spiritual deceptions and tempting counterfeit spiritualities.
The world is not what we think it is. It is far more mysterious, exciting, connected, and adventurous. As you learn practical ways to regain a sense of wonder and awaken your sense of God's presence--through prayer, attention, and living by spiritual disciplines--your eyes will be opened, and you will find the very thing every one of us searches for: our ultimate meaning.
===========Other books mentioned===========
- Passport to Magonia: https://www.amazon.co.za/Passport-Magonia-Folklore-Flying-Saucers/dp/0987422480
- Free version: https://archive.org/details/passporttomagoni0000vall_m8g5
- American Cosmic, by D.W. Pasulka: https://www.amazon.com/American-Cosmic-UFOs-Religion-Technology/dp/019069288X
- The Mountain of Silence, by Kyriacos C Markide: https://www.amazon.co.za/Mountain-Silence-Search-Orthodox-Spirituality/dp/0385500920
===========Christian Wonder Tales course===========
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===========Timestamps===========
00:00 - Coming up
01:13 - Intro music
01:38 - Enchantment is having a moment
06:54 - A strange enchantment
21:20 - A positive aspect of this
23:19 - Psychedelics and the Californian Buddhist
25:37 - Rod's journey to Christianity
30:23 - What's on the horizon? AI
33:01 - UFOs and the great religious deception
38:39 - UFO spiritual influences
40:37 - Pay attention
46:04 - Rod's book's reception
49:35 - Propositional vs being in person
52:24 - Embodiment
55:08 - Christian re-enchantment
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| 0:00.0 | I feel that we may live, you and I, to see some sort of great religious deception where |
| 0:06.3 | the UFOs, apparently the aliens, come down and say that God is not real, we made it all |
| 0:13.3 | a lot, we're the real deal, follow us, and we'll take you to enlightenment. |
| 0:18.5 | And here's a weird thing. |
| 0:20.4 | I found out that, I'm sorry, I'm just going |
| 0:23.0 | on and on, but it gets weirder. This is great, it gets weirder. I found out that a lot of people |
| 0:29.4 | in the U.S. government, in intelligence, military, and certainly in Silicon Valley, they believe |
| 0:34.9 | the UFO phenomenon is a real thing, but almost none of them believe |
| 0:39.0 | these are creatures from other planets. They believe these are transdimensional beings of some |
| 0:43.6 | sort. Well, Alex Jones been saying it for like 20, like 30 years. Isn't it crazy though? |
| 0:49.3 | He's been saying, look, they believe in this. He's like, I don't even know if it's real, but I'm just |
| 0:53.4 | telling you, the agencies believe that they are transdimensional beings and that they have ways to communicate with them |
| 1:00.1 | through psychedelics and through different meditation methods and that you know and so it's like now |
| 1:05.2 | you know 30 years down the line with alex jones basically you know being run out of business now |
| 1:10.4 | regular journalists are going to start to talk about it. |
| 1:26.0 | This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. |
| 1:28.3 | Hello everyone. I am very happy to be here with Rod Dreher. |
| 1:43.3 | Most of you, I think everybody watching this knows who Rod Dreher is. |
| 1:46.0 | He is a New York Times best-selling author, and he has a new book called Living in Wonder. |
| 1:52.0 | I am very happy to call him my friend. |
| 1:55.0 | He seems to be on the same journey we are, you know, all of you watching the symbolic world, |
| 2:08.2 | has the same types of insights and being prescient before the big part, like the whole culture is catching up. |
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