What I mean by sleeping through the night is about six to eight hours in a stretch.

And I want to explain how we do this without crying it out.

So I let them drift off to sleep that way.

And then once they're asleep, I slide them over right next to me.

And this is the controversial part.

Howdy folks.

Welcome back to the podcast today. You and I have the great

privilege of listening to my beautiful wife, Catherine Joy, Votberg, talk about what she does

to sleep train our children. We are on baby, we are on baby number six right now with sleep training.

And I will be the first to attest to Katie's philosophy and strategies.

They are effective.

I'm sleeping great.

Katie seems to be sleeping great.

I'll let her speak for herself.

And yeah, I'm going to let her speak for herself.

And so with that said, we're going to get this thing rolling.

But before we do, I want to thank each and every one of you that have taken the time to leave a rating or a review on iTunes or Spotify or wherever you listen to our podcast.

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